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Apr
30
http://beforeitsnews.com/news/37718/Philadelphia:_Mob_Attacks_Nazis,_Tabloid_Mocks_Violence.html
Disgrace in Philadelphia: Violent Mob Attacks Nazis — Tabloid Mocks Violence
by Jeffrey Imm
Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.)
www.realcourage.org/2010/04/disgrace-in-philadelphia/
Once again, another public activity by Nazis has resulted in violent mob attacks and beatings of them in public.
We saw this on April 17, 2010 in Los Angeles, and now apparently we see this again on April 27, 2010 in Philadelphia.
To those who believe that it is acceptable or humorous for mobs to violently attack those with Nazi groups or wearing Nazi garb, we ask you a simple question: who do you think is the real Nazi then? Them or you?
For full disclosure, the Nazi and white supremacist crowd knows that I am a dedicated opponent of their ideologies of hate. For nearly nine years, I have been reporting on Nazi threats around the world and the United States, and since 2005, I have had a dedicated web site “AgainstNazi.com” that addresses Nazi hate and their organizational activities. Here at the Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.) human rights group web site, we have a category on Aryan Nazi Supremacism where we report on Nazi hate and atrocities that continue today; we have similar categories of reports on racial supremacism and on the Stormfront group. R.E.A.L.’s challenges to the “white nationalist” Stormfront group, led by a former member of the American Nazi Party Don Black, has garnered us threats for our public awareness efforts, including threats by numerous “white nationalist” groups who have tried to publish information about me to allow others to attack my home and family. Other Stormfront forum members post images about using guns on those who defy them. We have reported on Stormfront forum members conviction on terror plots, and frequently reported on Stormfront forum members support for terrorism, violence, and hate. A Nazi who was a writer for the National Vanguard has written false, slanderous, and defamatory articles about me and others to try to defame us, as has a Nazi from the National Alliance. Moreover, “white nationalists” from both the Occidental Dissent and American Renaissance have sought to personally attack me and even seek a “war” against me. To the Nazis and white supremacists, our message has been “we are not afraid.”
So let me set the record straight – I am no apologist, no supporter, and no appeaser of Nazi or white supremacist ideologies.
In America and around the world, we all have human rights. We disagree, we oppose views we disagree with, we even protest one another.
But when people take that disagreement to threats or actual violence, there should be no question – you have committed A CRIME.
One can rationalize threats and violence all they want, but a crime is a crime. A criminal is a criminal.
To those who believe that support, rationalize, or make jokes about opposing Nazis in America with mob violence and physical threats, I ask you – are you opposing Nazis, or becoming one?
The UPI reports about the recent Philadelphia mob attack on Nazis that “Three men who showed up in full Nazi regalia at a punk show in a Philadelphia club were attacked afterward outside by approximately 50 people, witnesses said… An witness told the newspaper the crowd punched and kicked the men in Nazi garb and used beer bottles and cue balls as weapons although Internet message boards said the attack was not quite so violent.” AOL News reports: “Witnesses said the men were mocked inside the Khyber club Friday night for sporting tattoos of Nazi symbols and wearing camouflaged combat pants, WWII-style coats emblazoned with SS emblems and Third Reich hats with Nazi insignias.” A blog report states that “The three victims barely made it 50 yards before the angry crowd set upon them. One Nazi was caught right in the middle of 2nd street as punches, kicks, bottles, boots and blows rained down upon his prone and turtled body. He could be heard crying for help all up and down the block. The other two were caught nearby and beaten severely as more weapons appeared.”
The reports lead to an obvious question: Which ones are the Nazis again? The ones with the ridiculous outfits or the mob that beat them?
You know the answer, and it is a disturbing trend that R.E.A.L. sees of too many justifying or laughing about political violence in America today. There are no “heroes” in political violence, especially in a democratic nation, not among those who would spit on Congressmen or throw bricks through their office windows, not those who would fly a plane into an IRS building, not those who would attack the Pentagon, and not even those who would believe they are justified in violent attacks on Nazis in Los Angeles and now in Philadelphia. Yes, they are all different circumstances, and you may like some victims and not others. But in every case of such political violence, there are no heroes, there are just criminals.
Two months ago in February 2010, we were disgusted to see those praising terrorist Joe Stack as a “hero,” and then appalled to find those who felt that it was humorous to describe such a terrorist murderer of an American veteran as “someone simply going out with a bang.” America’s freedoms allow such freedom of speech and freedom of press – even when it is despicable. But mocking those who are victims of political violence is the one sure way to start to degrade and undermine such American freedoms.
So it was particularly disturbing to see a Philadelphia tabloid newspaper that reported the April 27 attack on Nazis as “Concertgoers show the Reich stuff, are beaten by crowd,” with a mocking first sentence of the report on the victims of violence that reads “How did they Nazi this coming?” The new report also includes an email from someone apparently gloating about the attack on the Nazis “And they did get their asses kicked… Again.”
When did reporting on political violence in the news media become the source of mockery and gloating? What message does any reporter think that this sends to those who believe that violence is an acceptable approach to those we don’t like and don’t agree with?
I tried to reach the young writer of this article for a Philadelphia tabloid newspaper, but instead spoke to the editor that approved it. I explained to the editor our position in opposing Nazi hate, but also pointed out our opposition to such mob violence, and the editor explained his family’s suffering during the Holocaust. The editor explained to me that a tabloid newspaper has a different style than a broadsheet newspaper, and has different titles intended to grab readers’ attention. The editor further explained that the headline “Concertgoers show the Reich stuff, are beaten by crowd” had garnered the most online attention to the tabloid newpaper’s report, and people reading about the story ensured that it got reported. The editor further stated that the report did not “take sides on the issue.”
Imagine for a moment, however, if the mob violence wasn’t against an ideology as universally rejected as Nazism, but was against another ideology, perhaps another political party, another identity group, another race, religion, gender. Would it still be “funny?” Would it still be “clever”? And would reporting the boasting from an attendee at the club about victims of violence getting “their asses kicked” still be responsible journalism? But the general idea that many have is, because it is about Nazis, well, that’s acceptable, essentially because we don’t agree or respect their views that somehow they are less of a human being than anyone else. You don’t have to be a human rights activist to recognize that such thinking is simply wrong. Hate is hate and violence is violence.
There is one nation that accepted the view of using threats and physical violence against those that they disliked and disagreed. Political violence was their primary tool in silencing dissent, in taking over the government, in oppressing others who were different from them. Their media consistently mocked and degraded the victims of such hate and violence. You know that nation whose leaders and whose people embraced such hate and political violence. It was called Nazi Germany, and it was led by Adolf Hitler. It was the same Nazi Germany, whose “final solution” was the Holocaust of 6 million Jews, something that America could have and did not stop.
This year, we remembered the Holocaust on April 11, 2010. We remembered the Holocaust at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington DC, where I recently wheeled a older, black Christian woman in wheelchair around that weekend so that she too could see the consequences of hate. We remember the Holocaust annually at our nation’s capital, people of all nationalities, all races, and all religions, and hold a reading of the names of the victims at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum – by average people who are dedicated to never forget. This year my wife and I read names together at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.
We remember the Holocaust. But what have we learned from it? What have the mobs in Los Angeles and now in Philadelphia learned from it?
You would think that nearly 70 years after the start of the mass killings at the Holocaust that we would have learned some lessons about humanity, the cancer of political violence, and the virus of hate. But what have we learned when too many think that political violence is acceptable? What we have learned when some rationalize mob violence against those whose views we despise? As political violence is becoming increasingly “acceptable,” what path is OUR nation on today?
When we say “Never Again,” that includes America too.
We must never forget the tragic and horrific lessons of the results of hate and political violence – then and now. “Never again” does not only mean never allowing such atrocities again, it also means never becoming like those who rationalized and laughed about hate and political violence.
On June 10, 2009, a Nazi white supremacist James Von Brunn attacked the U.S. Holocaust Memorial museum and murdered black security guard Stephen Tyrone Johns.
On June 13, 2010, Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.) will publicly remember that attack on America by those who hate on at Washington DC’s Freedom Plaza. To those who threaten us, know that we are not afraid.
But when we defy Nazi and white supremacist violence, we will do so with peace.
When we defy Nazi and white supremacist hate, we will do so with love.
When we say “Never Again” to such hate, that must include our own hate.
We will never defeat hate with hate. The terrorist who attacked the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum praised hate. Terrorist James Von Brunn viewed hate as “natural, normal, and necessary.” Von Brunn and all those who promote hate expect you to agree. They expect you to become just like them. That is how they win.
But you have a choice. You can choose to not let hate and fear rule your life, your decisions, and your way of dealing with the world. You can choose to reject hate’s political violence as acceptable, justifiable, or even humorous.
You have the power and the ability to shape your actions, your nation’s future, and humanity’s destiny.
Responsible for Equality And Liberty Asks You to Choose Love, Not Hate. Love Wins.
Apr
11
I’ve met Frank Meeink personally and honestly, he was nothing more than a DORK.
A ‘Recovering Skinhead’ On Leaving Hatred Behind
As a teenager, Frank Meeink was one of the most well-known skinhead gang members in the country. He had his own public access talk show, called The Reich, he appeared on Nightline and other media outlets as a spokesman for neo-Nazi topics, and he regularly recruited members of his South Philadelphia neighborhood to join his skinhead gang.
At 18, Meeink spent several years in prison for kidnapping one man and beating another man senseless for several hours. While in prison, Meeink says, he was exposed to people from a variety of ethnic and racial backgrounds and started reevaluating his own racist beliefs. His transformation solidified, he tells Dave Davies, after the Oklahoma City bombing, when he saw the iconic photo of a firefighter cradling a lifeless girl in his arms.
“I felt so evil. Throughout my life, even when I was tattooed up and wanting to be a skinhead, I felt like maybe I was bad on the outside. But I felt good on the inside,” he says. “And that day it switched. I felt OK on the outside, but I felt so evil inside. I had no one to talk to. … So I went to the FBI and … I told them my story. I said ‘I don’t have any information on anybody, but I just need to let you know what it’s like.’ And of course they wanted to listen, because the Oklahoma City bombing had happened.”
The FBI recommended that Meeink contact the Anti-Defamation League — which he did. He now regularly lectures to students about racial diversity and acceptance on behalf of the ADL, and he has written a memoir about his past, called Autobiography of a Recovering Skinhead.
Meeink says the biggest change in the skinhead movement since he left is how easily members can spread their message and communicate with one another.
“When I was around, we contacted each other through P.O. Box numbers — and not through Web sites,” he says. “So the Web has really got numbers looking bigger than they are. But you gotta remember, too: Sometimes those are just misguided kids who are looking for anything to do. But if your children are looking at these Web sites more regularly, and they’re not looking at them for research, you need to step in and ask why and ask the right questions.”
Interview Highlights:
On the neighborhood where Meeink grew up, in South Philadelphia
“You’re raised knowing don’t go into the other neighborhoods. It’s passed down through generations of Irish people in the neighborhood. So I come from a place that has a feel-good background to it. We’re very proud of being Irish. Proud of being working class. And it was a tough neighborhood. A lot of drugs and alcohol were really bad in our neighborhood. Decisions were made in our neighborhood at the Catholic church or in the bar.”
On how attending a predominantly African-American middle school influenced his later racial hatred
“That school was what did it for me. Growing up in South Philly, where we just had this Irish pride thing, I never really thought of the other races or the other races who lived around us as inferior or as much trouble because most of the kids — and most of the fistfights you got into — were with other Irish kids. We all knew each other. So it wasn’t this big ‘I hate them.’ It was just an us-them. Once I got out there and noticed that the ‘us’ was very, very small and the ‘them’ was very, very big — and there was no one helping me — and I think that’s where it started.”
On how he became involved with neo-Nazi activities
I went up to the Lancaster, Pa., area, and I’m up there and some of my family — my mother’s sister, my aunt and uncle moved up there with their kids. And I was very close with all of my cousins. … My cousin that lived in the Lancaster area was very into punk rock, very into skateboarding. And I couldn’t wait to get up there that summer and live there all summer. That was the summer I was getting out of that [middle] school. So I get up there, and he’s not a skateboarder anymore. He’s not a punk rocker anymore. He’s a skinhead. And in his room, there’s a swastika flag and stories about Adolf Hitler and stories about skinheads. … And I knew of skinheads, but I didn’t know of their beliefs or anything yet. And he kind of introduces me to it. He says, ‘You know, this is what it is.’ And now every night, all these other skinheads would come over his house and come drinking and listening to music. And they’d always give me a couple beers. I was the young kid to the group. You know, they’re all 15-, 16-, 17-year-old guys who are cool to me. And they gave me a beer, and they start talking ‘multiracial society will never work.’ Now, I have no idea what that means at all.”
On the ideology of the neo-Nazi movement
“When they would say these bigger words, like multiracial and multiracial society, I had no idea in depth what that meant. When I asked, they would say about blacks and whites not getting along, and I understood what they were talking about. And we’re sitting around, and they’d say, ‘Oh, you went to school in Philadelphia. What’s it like?’ These kids have never really been down to the city, so they’re asking me what it’s like to go to school there, and I’m telling them it’s horrible, I hate it, it’s hell. And for me, when I look back on that now, that was finally someone saying to me, ‘How is your life? How are you doing? How is your school?’ Because my parents never said, ‘How was school today? What’d you learn?’ They never did that. For once, someone’s asking me how my life is.”
On his media appearances as a skinhead
“I did a lot of national TV shows, like with Ted Koppel and other news organizations, and so I’ve been kind of a face. And it just kind of happened, where someone said, ‘You are the face of our movement.’ I did a TV show. They liked me because basically I looked like a nut, so they wanted me on their other shows, and, you know, swastikas on a young kid’s neck sells TV shows, so now I did a couple shows like that, and I kind of made a name for myself. And then when I [moved] to Illinois, I wasn’t doing much media press, but I was really trying to get this thing started, so I got my own cable access show. … Called it The Reich, like Hitler’s Reich and the Third Reich, and started a talk show about being a skinhead. So everyone got to know me from this talk show and it went on from there. What I’d do to recruit kids from that show — I mean, it was easy — I’d go on, say this is what I’m into, then the media would pick up on it.”
On the crime that landed him in prison
“There was this lefty-type skinhead that hung around us in Springfield [Illinois] and he was the only one. And him, me and my roommate kinda had a falling out. My roommate didn’t like him. I didn’t like him. And I didn’t like mainly his political beliefs. So I [told him], ‘Come over to our house on Christmas Eve for a Christmas party,’ and when he came over, there was no Christmas party. It was just me and my roommate waiting for him. And we kidnapped him and we randomly beat this other human being for hours and videotaped the whole thing as a joke. And that’s eventually what got me put in prison.”
On his withdrawal from the skinhead community
“It had already come to me [while in prison]: Maybe I need to start looking at things. But I still always thought my purpose in life [was] God wouldn’t have put me in this purpose of being an Aryan Christian soldier if he didn’t want me here. So I’m still trying to say, ‘There’s something going on but I need to stick with this because that’s where I am. This is my team.’ But I’m on a train one day, and I’m talking to this black dude, and he just sits down next to me and he asks if I did prison time. He’s seen all my tattoos. Me and him start talking about prison life, about how we get away with things, how we sneak things away from guards and sneak food out, and just prison talk. So he gets off and he says, ‘Hey man. Real nice to meet you. You’re really down to Earth.’ And this is on the El train. So he gives me a pound and I get off and I walk off to this skinhead meeting that night. And these are all old recruits of mine in Philadelphia. These are all guys I got into this. … And I’m sitting at this party and I’m drinking … and I’m thinking about some of the guys I just did time with and parts of my life with my family, and one of the guys stands up and he starts saying, ‘Italians ain’t white,’ and I’m half Irish, half Italian, and I let him sit for a second. And he doesn’t know half of us are Italian in the Philly crew, and I say, ‘Hey, buddy. I’m half Italian, what do you think of that?’ And he says, ‘OK,’ and kinda the whole party stops. … So then we’re sitting there and everyone starts talking again about it, and I say, ‘How ’bout my daughter? My daughter’s probably more than 75 percent Italian. Are you saying she’s not white?’ And he says, ‘Nope, she ain’t white.’ And I just beat the crap out of this guy at this party. And I get everyone off of me and I say, ‘I’m outta here.’ And I walk back down, and I’m going to go catch the train by myself and go back home, and I had been drinking a little bit. And I remember looking up at God and saying, ‘God, maybe there’s something wrong. Maybe you’re right. Maybe on the black, Asian and Latino issue, maybe we are all equal.”
Nov
12
West Bank rabbi says non-Jews can be murdered
A Jewish rabbi from the Israeli-occupied West Bank has endorsed the killing of any non-Jew, including children and babies, who pose a threat to Israel.
In a book written by the prominent right-wing religious figure, Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro, it is suggested: “If a gentile endangers the existence of Israel, it is allowed to kill him. Also if he is completely not to blame for the situation that has been created.”
The author has written: “Children should not be exempt from this fate. There is a reasonable explanation for killing infants if it is clear that they will grow up to hurt us, and in this situation, the strike should be directed at them.”
The rabbi has added that non-Jews could also be killed if they violate commandments, such as the prohibition against stealing, murdering or idol-worshipping.
The book includes endorsements from leading Jewish spiritual authorities in the West Bank.
The book, The King’s Torah, is to be published as a general opinion of the more radical settler rabbis living in the West Bank.
According to Jewish activists, the thinking in the book is quite widespread among settlers as a number of them have a deeply racist philosophy against any non-Jews, and especially against Arabs.
Shapiro is considered to be a leading spiritual authority among the more radical Jewish inhabitants in the West Bank.
He is the head of an Orthodox Jewish school in Yitzhar, one of the territory’s most hardline settlements, located near Nablus.
The mass-selling Israeli newspaper Maariv has described the book as a deliberation on the permissability of taking the life of someone who is not Jewish.
The book will not be sold in mainstream Israeli bookstores, but the author has offered sales over the Internet.
Oct
25
Sent to us from: Commander Schoep
NSM stands strong in California:
Forward this post on to lists, Forums, and our Folk everywhere:
NSM HQ salutes the men and women of the California chapter for standing strong today in the streets. You have raised the bar and set an example today. You have sent a message to every white person in American that believe’s in what we are fighting for, but are too afraid to come out and stand with us. When attacked you sent our enemies to the ground, and for that we salute you!
Approximately 2 dozen violent Mexican Communists (Brown Berets) broke through Police barrier and attacked 2 dozen NSM members & supporters. The NSM hit back hard, beating brown berets to the ground see pictures here:
Brown beret throws punch at NSM, and ends up getting taught a lesson. This is what happened before the Police pulled the communists away, and this is a lesson to what happens to anti’s when they break into our lines, they end up on the ground!
http://www.pe.com/multimedia/slideshow/2009/20091025_nazi/pages/06NAZI25mzg.html
Brown berets running as our Comrades assist one of them who apparently fell down with a headache:
http://www.pe.com/multimedia/slideshow/2009/20091025_nazi/pages/06NAZI25mzg.html
White Power! As a punch sends mexican commie reeling:
http://www.pe.com/multimedia/slideshow/2009/20091025_nazi/pages/06NAZI25mzg.html
Article from newspaper: http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_webnazi25.2d9a4ba.html?ocp=3#slcgm_comments_anchor
Tv coverage:
Nazis, Counter-Demonstrators Clash In Riverside
http://cbs2.com/local/Riverside.Neo.Nazis.2.1268903.html
We will be marching in Phoenix, Arizona on the State Capitol on Nov. 7th, with a Nationally backed America First Rally. Any additional Comrades that wish to attend are welcome and I look forward to seeing you there.
http://www.nsm88.org/events/americafirstrallyinaz.htm
National Socialist Movement www.nsm88.org
